
Chattanooga Mother Mourns Loss of 15 Year Old Shot By Police
Submitted by Reneé LaSalle on July 2, 2009 - 4:35pm.
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Comments Below: 48
A Chattanooga mother tries to understand after her fifteen year old son is killed by police.
It happened Tuesday night in East Lake Courts after police say the boy refused to put down his gun.
Grieving mother Gloria Duncan is devastated by the loss of her youngest son Alonzo O'Kelley, "I never knew he had a gun."
The fifteen year old was shot by police around 8:30 Tuesday night, "I know my son wasn't no angel, I'm not gonna say he was an angel. But to my knowledge he had threw the gun..."
Chattanooga Housing Authority police were responding to shots fired when O'Kelley, Dooney to his friends, was shot.
Friend & Witness Thaddeus Pollard says, "It was a guy in a black truck, they was shooting at each other. And then Dooney had run back in the projects and guess he had seen the police so he turned back around and ran back out. And the police told him to put down the gun. He threw down the gun and took off running. He shot him in the back four times."
Police tell a different story...They say they have recordings of Lt. Erik Reeves repeatedly ordering O'Kelley to drop his gun...and Reeves says he only fired when that gun was raised.
CHA Police Chief Felix Vess says, "Lt. Reeves had to make a split second decision and he shot the suspect. And, I mean, during that time he was protecting life."
Police say O'Kelley died a short time later from a single gunshot to the upper body.
Multiple shell casings and a gun believed to be the suspect's were recovered from the scene.
Another juvenile was also taken into custody.
Chief Vess says, "When you have people running around out there with guns, shooting at each other... ...law enforcement agencies around this city are going to do what they can to protect life."
Lt. Reeves is on paid administrative leave while the investigation continues.
But in a neighborhood where many fear police it's one more reason for concern...
Pollard says, "I'm scared of the police now. I don't think they coming to help us. I think they coming to kill us."
...And Gloria Duncan wonders if things could have been different, "I'm waiting to see is the truth gonna come out...That's all I want. All I want is the truth."
Police say 11 people were shot in 7 different incidents of violence just last month in Chattanooga.
Meanwhile, we hope to hear police recordings of the incident for ourselves... Next week.
I am an adult..not fou;ed
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 8, 2009 - 4:19am.
I am an adult..not fou;ed mouth..with a respectable job. This kid was a thug!! Shooting at vehicles,carrying a gun. Bet you would change your mind if it were you he was shooting at.
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yall think yall kno it all
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 7, 2009 - 4:42pm.
when you come from where ive came from and where dooney came from then you'd understand... i went to school wit him and i thought he was well mannered but we all have our own opinions... but where we came from we do all we can to survive and be safe... his mom cant watch him all the time she has to do wat she gots to do to take care of her family...... people juss think they kno wat they talkin bout but you dnt understand how other peoples lives are... his mother did the best she could and yall kno that you cant watch all your kids at the same time!!!!!!!!!!!!! R.I.P-dooney
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"Red Neck's" response
Submitted by Jeremy W. (not verified) on July 6, 2009 - 9:54pm.
I guess I am one of the immature rednecks you are talking about. I dip coppenhagen, drive a lifted 4 wheel drive truck, and like to drink a cold beer on my front porch after a long day at work. I also know right from wrong and what this kid was doing was wrong. He was running around with a gun shooting in an area with kids all around. This policeman was just doing his job. He did not want to kill that kid but the kid was pointing a gun at him. If I was in his shoes I would have done the exact same thing. I love how self-righteous people such as your self want to put people down that have opinions that are different from yours. I am not a real religous person but I believe if someone needs prayer you pray for them. It is not even a question of wanting to or not. And people are trying to make this a black or white issue. It is not. It is an issue of right and wrong and this young man was in the wrong. All he had to do was drop the gun but he did not. Instead he pointed the gun at a police officer the officer did what he had to do. Speaking for myself and probably all of the other rednecks out there you would never have the chance to become my friend because we do not associate with uppity self-righteous jackasses such as yourself. And for the person everybody is being so hard on about his spelling dont worry about it man you are entitled to your opinion just like everybody else on here. I hate that this kid died it is a tragedy and no one really knows what was going on with him even though I believe he was doing wrong it is not my place to judge him. He was just a kid and everybody should try to remember that. There is this redneck's two cents now everybody can start bashing if you want I can take it.
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You must live a very
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 6, 2009 - 12:06pm.
You must live a very sheltered life up on one of the high-and-mighty mountains. Listen. You wan ME to have respect for HIM, right? If I showed up in HIS 'hood', what do you think would happen? I'm white as a ghost. I'm just a moving target in the hood. Respect is EARNED, just like trust. This kid was carrying a gun with SOME kind of intent on his mind. Do you REALLY think that warrants respect? Suppose he had murdered someone? Should I still have respect for him?
You obviously have no idea what is going on in this city. I carry a gun for protection of friends and family. I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop, and because when only seconds count, 911 is just minutes away. You think it is MY destructive attitude towards THEM that gives me pause and causes me to worry about my safety? PLEASE! The children in this city carry guns. They are willing and able to kill. They are not forced to take responsibility for their behavior because of misguided people like YOU.
You don't want to pray? Then DON'T, hypocrite. You speak mildly about this poor armed child, but spit venom at those who call it what it is. Good luck to you.
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I HAVE A 24 YEAR OLD THAT TO
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 2:36pm.
I HAVE A 24 YEAR OLD THAT TO THIS DAY I CANT KNOW HIS EVERY MOVE, KIDS GET OUT AND SURE THEY GET MIXED IN WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE SOMETIMES AND THEY MAKE MISTAKES, SOME KIDS ARENT AS LUCKY AS OTHERS TO GROWN UP IN NICE HOMES IN NICE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MONEY, TIMES ARE HARD AND I THINK THAT THIS MOTHER DID HER VERY BEST BUT NO ONE SHOULD SAY THAT SHE IS A BAD MOTHER, KIDS SNEEK OUT AT NIGHT AFTER PARENTS GO TO SLEEP, THINGS HAPPEN THAT A PARENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER SOMETIMES, THIS MOTHER MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD A CHOICE TO LIVE WHERE SHE LIVES, ITS NOT LIKE JOBS ARE OUT THERE BEING HANDED TO EVERYONE AND WE SHOULDNT JUDGE A PERSON BY THE ARE THEY LIVE IN, A SINGLE PARENT ISNT A EASY JOB, TRUST ME I AM ONE OF THOSE SINGLE PARENTS AND I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS, IM NOT SAYING IT WAS RIGHT THAT THE KID BE CARRYING A GUN, IM SAYING DONT BLAME THE MOTHER, NO PARENT AND I DONT CARE WHO YOU ARE, YOU CANNOT KNOW EVERY WAKING MOVE YOUR KID MAKES WHEN HE IS WITH FRIENDS, THINGS HAPPEN AND SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS ARE NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST BUT A MOTHER CANT BE HELD RESPONSABLE, THIS KID MAY HAVE WENT OUT AFTER SHE WENT TO SLEEP OR ANYTHING AND INSTEAD OF DOGGING HER, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE PRAYING FOR BOTH SIDES, THIS WAS A SAD SITUATION A KID LOST HIS LIFE AND A OFFICER HAS TO LIVE WITH THAT EVERY SECOND OF HIS LIFE AND THAT IS LIKE A LIFE PUNISHMENT ITSSELF, ALL THE VIOLANCE NEEDS TO STOP AND REMEMBER THIS COULD HAVE BEEN YOUR KID OR FAMILY MEMEBER, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, NO SUEING THE POLICE OR CITY ISNT GOING TO BRING THAT KID BACK, NO ONE SHOULD BE THINKING MONEY AT A TIME LIKE THIS, THATS AWFUL, THIS KID WENT OUT IN A AWFUL WAY AND WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE DOING IS AT LEAST MAKING SURE HE IS BURIED THE DECENTIST WAY POSSIBLE, THIS LADY MAY NOT EVEN HAVE MOENY TO BURY HER CHILD, IF THE OFFICER WAS WRONG THEN JUSTICE SHOULD BE SERVED BUT PARENTS NEED TO TALK TO THEIR KIDS MORE AND HOPE AND PRAY THEY LISTEN, I KNOW I WORRY EVERY TIME MINE GOES OUT THE DOOR BUT YOU CANT KEEP YOUR KIDS UNDER LOCK AND KEY 24/7 AND REALLY NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE UNTIL THEY ARE PUT IN THAT POSITION. LOSING A KID HAS TO BE THE AWFULEST FEELING IN THE WORLD AND UNTIL YOU LOSE ONE, HOW CAN YOU DARE JUDGE SOMEONE, I FEEL SORRY FOR HER AND THE OFFICER AT THIS TIME AND ONCE THE REAL STORY COMES OUT THEN I MIGHT SEE IT DIFFERENTLY BUT RIGHT NOW I FEEL FOR HIS MOTHER AND FAMILY BECAUSE HIS LIVE IS OVER AND IT ENDED SENSELESSLY, ALL YOU BROTHERS NEED TO BE THERE FOR HIS MOTHER RIGHT NOW AND HELP HER THRU THIS AWFUL TIME AND HELP HER DEAL WITH THIS, AND PUT WHO IS TO BLAME ASIDE UNTIL THE REAL STORY COMES OUT AND THEN PRAY JUSTICE IS SERVED.
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Child killed by police
Submitted by Janice (not verified) on July 8, 2009 - 9:19am.
I feel that if he really is a CHILD he would have been at home and not carrying a gun around. In today’s society most parents don’t have a clue as to what their kids are doing, who they are running with or what kind of friends they have. I can say my mother worked when I was a young child and if she could not be there when I was a teenager she had someone who knew where I was and who I was with. It’s different today there is divorce and kids raising kids, but IF the values are instilled as a young child you would not have guns in school, kids having kids, and if the bible still meant anything they would know what they were doing could send their soul to hell, as well as them being in church can change a life. I go to church and I see the difference in kids that are raised in a God fearing home as opposed to kids that are left to their own devices and it is not a sight I like to see. With the world in the shape it is in people should be teaching their kids about the Lord and God. The bible says that it will be parents against children, and it would be like in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, folks read your bible it is only going to get worse. Christ is coming for his church and you need to be ready.
I also feel that IF parents cared what was happening they would know what was going on. Kids are kids and you are the parents not them, stop asking them what you can do or not do, search their rooms see what is going on, look at what they are watching on TV and on the Computer, half of the stuff that is out there is trash and unfit to watch , and I check up on my kids, I make sure they are law bidding, God fearing kids that know what is happening in the worldsnf know what they should steer clear of. Put God back in the schools and you will see a difference in how a kid acts.
I hate to say it but if the child as he is called would have put down the gun like he was ordered to(lack of respect for authority) he would be alive today. I pray that if this kids has brothers and sisters they look at what happened and don't follow in his footsteps. God bless you and I will be praying for them.
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WHAT IN THE WORLD COULD BE
Submitted by Please (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 10:53am.
WHAT IN THE WORLD COULD BE THE DISCUSSION? EVERYBODY HERE HAS SOMETHING ELSE TO DO OTHER THAN REMARKING ABOUT THIS EVENT. TOMORROW WILL FIX IT'S SELF. TO THE NEGATIVE INPUT HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS AND GET A LIFE AND TO THE ONES ATTEMPTING TO DEFEND THIS MOTHER AND CHILD. DON'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO ASSUME THE BELIEF THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CAUSE YOU TO FEED INTO STUPIDITY......ETC.....
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REMARK ON
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 7, 2009 - 7:19pm.
THIS IS HANDLEING BUSINESS, THIS HITS CLOSE TO HOME FOR MANY PEOPLE AND IF THE COMMUNITY WOULD STICK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF AGAINST ONE ANOTHER THEN THINGS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE ONES THAT MAKE THAT IMPOSSIBLE, ITS SAD FOR BOTH SIDES AND THERE IS NO SOLUTION TO THIS CASE REALLY, POLICE IS GOING TO BE WHERE THEY ARE ASSIGNED AND KIDS ARE GONNA RUN THE STREET, KIDS ARE GONNA DO AS THEY PLEASE AND A PARENT CANNOT KEEP A EYE ON A CHILDS EVERY MOVE, THATS FACT AND ITS TIME PARENTS REALIZE THAT, WE DONT KNOW WHAT ARE KIDS ARE DOING WHEN WE ARENT AROUND AND NOT ONE PARENT CAN HONESTLY SAY THEY DO KNOW, YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY TELL YOU, UNLESS YOU ARE RIGHT THERE WITH THEM EVERY SECOND AND THAT IS HARD TO DO ALL THE TIME.
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POLLARD IS STUPID. HE
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 10:53am.
POLLARD IS STUPID. HE THINKS THE POLICE ARE COMING TO KILL THEM? THEY'RE KILLING EACH OTHER LIKE A BUNCH OF WILD BARBARIANS. IF PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD GET OVER THEMSELVES AND ACT LIKE CIVILIZED HUMAN BEINGS, THE POLICE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THERE! PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND SHOOTING EACH OTHER AND THEY WHINE ABOUT BEING THE VICTIMS.
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The Blame Game
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 9:02am.
It's easy to see things black and white, but is life ever really that clear?? We all have contributed to what has happened because we all live in Chattanooga as a community. These neighborhoods are a mess, but what are we doing to try to change them??? Throwing government funds at the situation obviously is not the answer, but teaching people how to thrive as a community will. Strong marriages and strong families can prevent these tragic (and yes this is a tragedy--- a 15 yr. old who could've been someone very different than who he was) situations. My heart goes to the Mother of the son, as well as the officer who had to make such a tough call. We all know that education is the future for all, but that does not mean just academic studies. Without a moral education what good does becoming educated do for the community. We need to think outside of our own sheltered lives and help raise up these neighborhoods. There are people in these areas that want a different life for their kids, but they may not know exactly how to do it under these conditions. I hope that people will rise up to action in helping to save these troubled places instead of sitting back and judging. I am raising 5 boys, one of which, is a 15 yr. old. I pray that he makes good choices, but I also have been very present in his life all of his life. I know where he is every moment of every day and most often he is with our family. He enjoys being with his family and doesn't seek to gain love and acceptance elsewhere. It would be amazing for these young teens to want to stay home with their families instead of out on the streets with their friends. It seems to me that this happens because Moms and Dads want to live their own life and you can do that more easily when your kids aren't around. I'm not bringing that up to judge, but as an observation to better understand the dynamic of this epidemic occurring in urban areas. I will do my part in going to these neighborhoods and providing service projects from time to time, but it would be wonderful to see more individuals rising up to save these troubled places in OUR community.
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Prayer
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 12:53am.
My prayers are not only for the mother of this young man,but for the true officers who try to do his or her job honestly and for the residents that are caught in the middle of all this shooting. Some live there by choice, while others have no choice. We are not suppose to judge one another, we should pray for each other. It does not matter what part of town we live in, this entire nation needs to be prayed for.
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you all have no right to say or judge this situation
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 10:18pm.
First of all let me say this. A mother can oonly do so much to care and watch a child. This boy was 15 yrs old he has a mind of own and at that age he will do what ever he wants regardless of how he was brought up. This young man may have had bad judgement but how dare you say that's just another thug off the streets. If that was your child would you feel the same way. Would you be sayin well done to the officer that killed your child. No I don't agree with the young man having a gun and yes he deserve some type of punishment but you have no right to agree on this life that is lost .
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You are exactly WRONG! You
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 11:20am.
You are exactly WRONG! You bring up a child in the way he is supposed to go and when he is older he will not depart from it. Had this mother, and hopefully father, done more to guide this child when he was much younger, this might not be an issue right now. When the kid has the mind of his own, it's too late to try to reign in the bad behavior. Now we get to the spare the rod crap. Everyone wants to be touchy-feely when it comes to discipline. And THIS is what we get for it. He was not reared as he should have been. Yes, he is responsible for his actions, as his mother is for hers.
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Cops 1, scum bags zip! Yea
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 6:25pm.
Cops 1, scum bags zip! Yea for the good guys!
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15 year old
Submitted by alexis (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 9:03am.
There is a lot of emotions raised by the death of any person, especially of a young person. But we need to set aside the emotions and look at the reality of the situation. A gun is not a toy. It can be a lethal weapon, if one does not understand the magnitude of its potential or are negligent. People with guns are usually carrying for protection;however,there are those who find it necessary to use it for illegal gains. I don't know why this young person had a gun. I am not judging his family or him, what I would like to say is that, when one displays a gun in the direction of another human being, that person would normally assume their life is in danger. Most rational people would be cautious even if a toddler picked up a gun and was pointing it in their direction, much less a fifteen year old who understands death can happen when one has a gun. I know that there is always someone more accurate than I am with a gun and I am not going to test their abilities, particularly if it is a policeman. Good sense would dictate that one would proceed with caution and lay down one's weapon if told to do so by a cop, especially if you had no reason to refuse. Lawsuits won't bring this person back, nor will time totally erase the memory one has when one has to take the life of another person whether in self defense, wartime or through an accident. There are no winners when peace is achieved through violence-that's hollywood. My sincerest sympathies for your loss and heartache as a parent and a healing of memories for all involved, community and police.
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15 yrs old
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 7:09am.
I work that area usually in the wee hours of the night.If the parents are so upstanding then why do I see often kids on the streets hanging out with the drug pushers and prostitutes?The ol saying used to be "Do You Know Were You're Children Are?"Sorry for the family's loss.However Im also sorry that officer was put in that position.Now we are adding insult to his feelings by threats of his family's well being for a job we hired him to do.Clean the streets of thugs,regardless of age.Before its over it will become another race issue.
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DNT B TALKING BOUT MY FRIEND
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 5:50pm.
DNT B TALKING BOUT MY FRIEND THADDEUS
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Listen. Your friend was
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 6:15pm.
Listen. Your friend was carrying a gun illegally. He ran from police. Do you or anyone else really think this is right? This does not constitute a tyragedy becasue it was EASILY preventable. If he had NOT had the gun, if he had NOT run from the police, this would not have happened. The fauklt doe NOT lie with the police. The fault lies with the alleged criminal. Criminal behavior leads to confrontations with police, like it or not.
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Cursing Comments
Submitted by Collins Parker on July 3, 2009 - 6:27pm.
Not all of the comments on this subject are getting through because of extreme profanity.
Tone down the cursing, and we'll be happy to add your opinions to the board.
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Mr Parker, I am very
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 12:09am.
Mr Parker,
I am very displeased that you posted that people shouldn't curse. How else would you know who the thugs are?
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E-Z to tell if you know what to look for
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 8, 2009 - 4:24pm.
The thugs spell like they are texting. but because they spend more tim on the streets gang-banging than going to school, this is how they really spell and talk....
"They don't be like dat...."
"Don't b dissin' my cuz...."
"I don't be no thug!!...."
"You better RECOGNISE!"....
Ignorance shows in print on a computer easier than talking to someone, sometimes.
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Shooting and lawsuite
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 4:18pm.
I think the parents of the child should be sued for putting other people in danger....hello we need to wake up!! Hold these parents responsible for letting their kids act this way. I am sorry he died, but that is what happens when you run around with a gun. It's the parents fault..they did it to him.
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Guns
Submitted by Sharron (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 3:09pm.
put there ass over in Iraq,and let them fight for our country. They will be crying for these mommie's. instead of gang banging.
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what is your kid doing with
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 1:57pm.
what is your kid doing with a gun and what do you expect?
No raising. I know where my kids are and what they do. Never do they run the streets and what part of drop the gun do you not understand. He could of killed someone innoscent. The police had every right to shoot.
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Good job Channel 12
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 10:56am.
thats awesome how channel 12 found the one guy to interview that is known for carrying guns also.
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mother playing the victim
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 10:46am.
How do you NOT know that your 15 year old son is packing?, if I were to have tried something like that, when I was 15, my parents WOULD have beat the hell out of me, and that what's wrong with this world now....no control over kids actions. I mean, what a little punk, can't fight his own battles so he carries a gun! I call this a classic case of population control! We don't need punk-ass kids toting guns, because punks that survive this end up suing the city for protecting the other citizens or in jail, I just look at it as less cost to the tax payers. And one other thing, why would your 15 year old son be out alone at 8:30 at night, with a gun?
This want-to-be mother should be charged with neglect!!!!
There is no "wanting to know the truth" because if she would have been doing her job as a parent NONE of this would have happend, the truth is, your punk-ass son was out in the streets waving a gun at other people and the police! I feel safer that one less punk is on the streets!
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Dooney was not a punk he was
Submitted by judy (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 7:52pm.
Dooney was not a punk he was a well mannered child whom i have known for 6 yrs...He had some problems growing up but he was a good kid...You can't talk about people like this that you don't even know. He was a sweet person and i will miss you Dooney...RIP baby I love you!
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punk....I know so!
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 10:30am.
1. He was NOT a well mannered child if he was in the streets with a gun.
2. He had "problems" because the one parent he had was not doing her job!
3. I don't know "dooney" personally, but, common sence tells me, I would blow a hole through him, if that little punk was waving a gun at me too.
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Yeah, you're right. Good
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 6:27pm.
Yeah, you're right. Good kids are always going around with guns and running from the cops. Yeah, that's right, he was just being the upstanding citizen he has been raised to be. My mistake.
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Pictures of child killer
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 7:29am.
Why does the press not post pictures of these tough cops that are child killers? Maybe it might help them to think before killing our citizens. I feel like it would only be fair for them to have their pictures and their records of service to the community made public in the media. After all we are all so proud of these fine outstanding men and women who protect us from bad children.
The media has most always had an excellent way of posting pictures of citizens who have been falsely arrested. In which has in many cases turned peoples lives in to a living turmoil. If it is fair for the average citizen to have their picture published, then why does it seem that the media is working very hard to keep these taser happy, children killers protected?
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Pictures???
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 9:22pm.
I have a better idea. How about publishing YOUR pictures with a label stating that you are a wannabe Thug Enabler. That Officer had no desire to shoot that MAN. He was Man enough to carry a gun and menace everyone around him but he suddenly becomes a little kid when he is shot?? I have no doubt the Officer whould have far preferred to have had no contact whatsoever with that little thug. God belss the police for keeping us all safe from thugs.
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I hope they DO post his
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 6:24pm.
I hope they DO post his picture so that when I see him in the streets I can thank him for doing the right thing, thank him for protecvting me and my family, thank him for putting away the scum of the earth, and apologize that there are so many who seemlingly want to cash in on a bad situation. MY heart is with the officer for the hell he is now in becasue of this little gangsta wannabe. Cudos to the cops!
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If you'll accept posting of
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 6:06pm.
If you'll accept posting of the decedant minor's photos (tats and all) and resume of past deeds, we'll gladly accept your terms. Tend your own backyard before trying to trim ours; the brush may be too thick for you to hew.
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It's "Thug Season" ---
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 3:55pm.
Is it not enough that we house these thugs, pay the utility bills, send them to school, by them food, and pay for health care, all on my hard earned money, but we also have to pay our finest police officers to leave there homes and families, when the little thugs start shooting and selling drugs on my (government) property?
These animals don't deserve jail, they deserve bullets. Moms (and Dads) have all they could ever want, they live in the USA, where our poor have CATV, Wii's, Xbox, $120 shoes, $1500 Spinning Rims, School and scholarships I pay for, access to every program under the sun. And yet they cannot find a way to stay off drugs, and make tough choices like getting jobs, reading to children, spending time with them before they turn into thugs.
For crying out loud take the bus to the library if you have to.
But no...
Well it's the police's fault for responding when Jr. starts shooting and illegally has a weapon. Don't you believe the police would rather have been home with his family instead of putting his neck on the line for this piece of garbage? What if Jr. had put a bullet in the officer and his kids lost his Daddy?
Thanks to Chattanooga's Finest. I appreciate you protecting my family from this thug.
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Thug
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 1:09pm.
Could not agree more, ya give them everything for free and all is taken for granted. I think we need to start open season gangs.
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thug season
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 4, 2009 - 2:56pm.
you hit the nail on the head...i agree.
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This cop wasn't a child
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 12:56pm.
This cop wasn't a child killer, he was actually doing his job to protect the community, if this little punk was waving a gun in your face, you would EXPECT the chattanooga police to do thier job--jackass!
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Always complaining!
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 7:13am.
U know. U people want help keeping voilence out of your community, but your the cause! If the police wouldnt have been there your would be complaining & so the police did do something & yet your still not happy!! Its always everybody elses fault, never yours or anybody in your family. U know get over it..thats jus another lil thug off the streets is the way I see it. & dont tell me he wasnt a thug.. he would have been inside doing homework or the dishes & not out shooting at cars, if he wasnt a thug.. Learn to controll your children!!
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Shame shame on 12
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 3:24am.
Let the comments stand on there own. You do not have to stand over them to protect this woman that gave brith to a thug. If she had been a good mother this story would not had happen.
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Shooting
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 8:00am.
AMEN!!! It was also mentioned that the family has hired a lawyer. The boy had not even been dead 24 hours and they hired a lawyer. To me that is disgusting. These people will now try to sue the police department for an insane amount of money. Why was a 15 year old boy running in the streets with a gun? I am sorry for their loss but this kid was doing wrong and this "mother" is as much to blame for what happened as anyone else involved.
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I hate to hear a kid go so young, but...
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 5:02pm.
I hate to hear a kid go so young, but, I have to agree. If he had a gun in his hand, it was his own stupid judgement that got him shot, and his mother shouldn't sue because it was her fault he wasn't supervised and didn't have proper "up-bringing".
Take your medicine and other parents to thugs:.... LEARN FROM IT! The city will be setting a bad example if they give that woman a DIME!
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Nine times out of 10 the
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 3, 2009 - 3:06pm.
Nine times out of 10 the people that have the stongest opinions about someone being a bad mother.....are people WHO DON'T HAVE CHILDREN! Think back to when you where a teenager and the sneaky things you did when your parents turned around for 1 minute. I don't care how many books you read or how many of your neices, nephews, or other family members you have babysat for 2 and 3 hours at a time. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO RAISE A CHILD UNTIL YOU HAVE ONE YOUSELF! They don't come with a manual. Every child is different. So as you are judging this woman and calling her "A BAD MOTHER"....maybe you should take into consideration that he was 15, father probably not present in the home, and when that happens a boy is usually going to the look to the streets to make him a man. I'm disgusted by some of these comments. Make me sick!
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I have kids....
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 8, 2009 - 12:08pm.
I not only have kids, but I have kids who respect authority, attend school REGULARLY (not just when they feel like it or J. Bailey is involved). I give them a certain time to be in the yard and a time to go to bed. I punish them when they misbehave and take privelages when they are acting out and not doing what they are supposed to.
In my youth, I misbehaved. Know what momma did? (And she was a single parent) She called the police on me or had me locked up herself to try to straighten me out.
Point being, if you give your kids the right kind of discipline and structure... talk to them.... listen to them... and above all MAKE THEM KNOW YOUR RULES ARE LAW in your house before they are teens; you will raise happy productive citizens. And parents: Its ok to tell your kids who they can and can't hang out with while they are under your roof. Its ok to spank (not beat) them. And don't allow privelages to pain in the @$$es until they do what you ask them to do.... No matter how small of a deal it is. (Take the phone, X-BOX, TV, date on Fri night, car, money to do things,...etc)
This woman was probably too enthralled in her prostitution for rock to care what he was doing or who he was doing it with.
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First of all, I didn't blame
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 12:21pm.
First of all, I didn't blame it on the mother, I blamed it on the kid, as sad as it is. But you say the father probably wasn't present. You are making assumptions and blaming him when you have no right to! A lot of people don't have both, or either, parents to look up to. But most 15 year olds know that running around the neighborhood with a gun doesn't make you a man.
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Let this be the word to the
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 5, 2009 - 11:41am.
Let this be the word to the wise. I am 28 and black. I was raised by my mother with 2 brothers and a sister. My dad left when my older brother was born. I was 5 when that happened. We lived in what most here would term a hovel. It was a room with beds we made a tnight and put away in the morning. It had a kitchen with running water sometimes. We had a garden and ate everythihng that came out of it. We went to school, sometimes with holes in our shoes, socks, pants and shirts. We took responsibility for what happened around us because we were EXPECTED to. My mother pulled no punches, took us to church EVERY Sunday, read the Bible faithfully, made sure we feared (that means respected for the heathn in the crowd) God and made sure our homework was done. My mother was not a smart woman, but she was smart enough. I put myself through college by working my butt off. Now this young man comes along and undermines the faith others have in black people. This is a shame. He made his choices, but his MOTHER dropped the ball in MY opinion. Had she taken responsibility for her family as she should have, he would not have had the CHANCE to do the things he did. Shame on HER and HIM!
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Thank you
Submitted by Janice (not verified) on July 8, 2009 - 9:30am.
Thank you and AMEN SISTER
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Glad you agree, but I'm not
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on July 8, 2009 - 3:50pm.
Glad you agree, but I'm not a woman.
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This is either a bunch of kids or a bunch of immature rednecks
Yeah, these comments sound like they are coming from little 11 or 12 year olds. I pray that these people calling this child a "punk" - are kids - I would hate to see a city full of people (adults no less) that call kids punks, thugs, etc. I bet you call your own kids "dumbasses" or "MF". Come on if you don't have a little bit of class at least have some tact, but what kind of adult talks like, my God, too many of these people. I bet IF they do have kids, they're bullies - all that smack flying around up there is an awful lot of arrogance. Instead of talking bad about the mother and her dead son - HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT FOR THE DEAD AND HIS FAMILY - PRAY FOR THEM. It is hard to talk like a lady when I feel so much contempt for people who think it is ok to talk like that about a boy. The only thing else I'm going to say is YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. 15 Years old is not old - for idiots - that is ONLY 15 short years, I've had friendships older than that. You don't know what this boy may have been going through. Maybe he had some little rich boy or girl who thought they were better, teasing him. Or maybe one of you all's kid was bullying him and he was scared - But you never EVER talk about a child like that, and I can tell you one thing for sure, GOD IS DISAPPOINTED IN YOU ALL. And that is why I think this may be kids, because you only have to say things like that to little kids - and I mean little as in WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EVEN READ MUCH LESS TYPE! We are suppose to pray for people like you, so thats what I'm going to do - but let it be known - I DON'T REALLY WANT TO, the only reason I am is because I pray to God these people don't live in this city and if they do that means that myself or someone I love could possbly be around "idiots" like that, and I hope that I nor my family or friends ever makes the mistake of befriending any of these people, as they've all decided not to post their names so as always when we meet new people we have to throw caution to the wind and hope they are truly good, unfortunately there are way too may people with that destructive attitude, hence explains why there are so many bullies today, forcing people, otherwise innocent people feel the need to arm themselves. So all you people griping and putting down this grieving mother and her son - you people may as well sign his death certificate - because it is people with that attitude and language/mouth that force people to think they need a weapon to protect themselves. Believe it or not, not all kids glorify the "gangsta" attitude like most followers (probably the kids of the foul mouthed people).