Digital TV Converter Coupons Rendered Worthless By Lack Of Supply, Expiration
Last year, I broke down a purchased an HDTV with my income tax refund. Its one of the best purchases I've made in recent years. It's a good think too, since my DTV converter coupons sent to me by the federal government just expired and are now worthless.
If your not familiar with the DTV conversion, let me back track. Next February, the federal government will require all "over the air" television broadcasters to turn off their analog signal and only send out digital signals. This is similar to when DVD first came on the scene. Many tv's needed a special box called an RF modulator to take the digital signal from DVD and change it to analog.
Now, we're faced with older style sets without digital tuners not being able to receive a signal once the analog broadcast goes off the air. In order to keep those sets working, you either need to be hooked to cable or satellite... Or use a converter box, a device that will receive the digital signal and convert it to analog, allowing you to still watch TV on an older set.
The Federal government offered to spot every household two $40 coupons to purchases converter boxes, but the coupons expire three months after they're mailed out. Well, I foolishly signed up for the coupons as soon as the program opened in January at http://www.dtvtransition.org/.
I kept the coupons in my car and anytime I was at a retailer, I took the coupons in the store with me. It wasn't until last month that I actually saw one in a store. I won't name the retailer, but the box cost $69. I keep an old TV in my basement for severe weather instances, and didn't want to be out of pocket $30 just to keep that set running, especially since I knew many of the boxes should be priced less.
I found a display at another retailer that claimed to sell one made by Magnavox for $49. I checked several of their locations over several weeks and never found one. A store associate suggested I call, saying they go out as fast as they come in. I did that several times, and alas, none were ever shipped.
I lucked out a few days ago and found a stockpile of 4 DTV converter boxes at yet another retailer I frequent. Prices at $47, I used one coupon on the off brand product. Total cost to me was over $12 with tax. I'm not sure it works though. I hooked it up and its not picking up any signal. I plan to test it at a friends house.
I held out hope I could get a different brand with the other coupon, but never found them in stock again anywhere else. Now comes word that this is happening to hundreds of thousands of people across the country. The coupons are expiring before people can use them.
Several lawmakers told a House panel this week consumers are having a tough time finding converter boxes, which are sold out in some stores. Don't throw your expired coupons away just yet. These lawmakers think we the people should be given more time to buy the boxes, even if our coupons are expired. The government reports about half of the first 840,000 coupons sent out expired without being used. Stay tuned.
converters and digital signals
we bought a new camper and it came with an antenna but no TV, so we bought a new TV capable of picking up analog as well as digital. Even though we camped in rural So. Vermont we picked up digital channels from Burlington and Plattsburg about 10 of them. The camper antenna has an amplifier so that is certainly a must. some digital channels fell out once in a while, but those that came in were remarkable!
We have an antenna at home (halfway between NYC and Albany) as we don't watch enough to justify cable expense. however as in most cases we learned long ago that a "rabbit ears" just don't do it. We use a dual VHF/UHF roof mounted antenna - the largest available - with a booster amplifier on it. I gets us about 20 channels - more than enough for the hour or so of daily TV watching.
Thus we expect to use converter boxes with the govt issued coupons, but like many I've hit the same snags in finding no stock in stores and now they expired!! I suggest everyone yell loudly at your gov't to repeal those expiration dates, it's another case the consumer be damned. and dont forget it's really your tax dollars that expire!!
John
These coupons are really a
These coupons are really a hassle and even worse for the elderly. My Mother has gone into Wal-Mart and Radio Shack and they are always out of stock. She did find some at a much higher price at another store. It is the poorer that have to purchase these convertors and this is making it even harder on them. Someone needs to relook this program.
DTV coupons never recieved.
Checking the govt websight on this I found they did have my address and I was elegible to get the coupons. However I never recieved the coupons.
I think its another corrupt defective government program that has failed, where they dont have enough money to pay for it. Pretty easy to have the coupons expire, if the user never gets them. Good way to keep from paying it out. I have seen RCA converters at Walmart and nowhere else. I have been looking for a tuner that can output High Def, as I was on the bleeding edge of LCD tv without the atsc tuner.
Those are 350 if you dont mind getting a TIVO with it.
Have been using PC USB high def tuners to record and watch dtv. Have found it to be highly unsatisfactory in a car or mobile environment.
What brand did you test?
What brand did you test? Dose anyone know which is best?
Mine never showed up in the
Mine never showed up in the mail, and from reading the FAQ on their site. If your coupons are lost or stolen, by law they cannot issue replacements.
How stupid is that? I don't know about how the mail is for other people, but our mail goes missing on a regular basis here.
I'm currently on disability and obviously have a limited income, and now I need to pay full price for a converter box? How lovely. This is a horribly mismanaged program!
DTV converter boxes
I, like you have been searching for the converter boxes, and it seems that none of the retailers are getting them in. Fortunately for me, I have yet to request the coupons, knowing they would expire in three months time. I subscribe to neither cable or satellite, and have no desire to. I have two perfectly good televisions and have no desire nor the money to replace them. I have trouble finding salespeople who can even answer my questions about the converter boxes. Do the rabbit ears still have to be attached? Holding out, hoping that closer to the 2/2009 deadline, more boxes will be available. I have about decided it is a conspiracy by the retailers to get everyone to buy new TV's!!
Converter box reply
Hey Terry, as far as rabbit ears go... yes, you'll still need them. I took my off-brand coverter box to Nashville last weekend when I visited my parents and tested it out. It picked up nothing at first. Then, I plugged a set of rabbit ears into the antenna input on the converter box and received over 20 channels. The only problem, I was holding the antenna and when my hand shook, the signal received digital glitches.
I haven't tested it again here at home, but plan to soon. I'll keep you posted.
Signal
There is a very good chance that if you only use it in the basement for emrgency situations, you have a small set of bunny-ears. If you are at far from the signal source, the traditional indoor atennas are worthless. I live 40+ miles from most of our major broadcasters and cannot pick up any signals with an indoor antenna. Even my outdoor antenna has limited signal strength. If you live fairly close to the source of the signal, you might want to pick up a new indoor antenna that can pick up UHF signals. This may help.
Convertor Box test
Just an update. I tested the box in Nashville the other weekend, and it picked up over 20 channels. My Dad gave me a set of new rabbit ears to connect to my basement tv. I retested back at home, in the basement, and picked up 2 channels with those rabbit ears. The picture gets some digital glitch, or a digital choke as I like to call it. I may try an antenna with an amp on it to see if that adds additional channels. At least it works for my primary purpose, an emergency weather tv.
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They gave broadcasters
They gave broadcasters several years to switch over to digital. Whey do consumers only get a few months for the coupon program? I understand the suposed "theory" behind expirations and such, but they were only going to send a limited amount out, period. The coupons should have a validity date the extends even beyond February. I initially thought they were actually doing something nice, but now I can't help but wonder why else is behind it. Why the expiration date -- so they could use the money for something else since they new a large portion would not get used. You know they had to be aware that the product would be unavailable at those numbers. What a crock this program seems to be. Probably just something to win votes. If the democrats remove the expiration, vote democrat. If the republicans do, vote republican. I wasn't upset about it till I read this article and all the comments. And for what its worth, yes, my coupons are expired too.